Maximum temperature for cocaine recrystallization with ethanol

[DanTheMan]

Okay, i did now a lot of expirements and can say if you heat your cocain over 70 °C you will break it. But if you stay below 60 °C you can speed drying speeds alot up. Eg. i can do an aceton wash with in minutes. The result will be confortamble to consume. The important part, is that you need to put your still aceton wet concain from dried filter in a breaker on an heating plate. Keep steering and crushing crystas still nothing is able to stick on beaker.
I tried ethanol wash with 70 °C and got almost inactive withe poweder. So two theoris. It looks like cocaine and ethanol react at temps over 70C with each other and build something not enjoyable or the hcl part break. Someone know why ? Could my product be cut with suger?

 

[G.Patton]

If you wanna speed up drying, use vacuum. Your cocaine will 100% safe and sound =) Ethanol and acetone dissolve cocaine hydrochloride very well.
They are not. You wash out your pure cocaine HCl and leave some impurities on the filter, I guess.

 

[WholleyMolley]

instead of heating the c on the plate heate the plate tto 70, take it out , take you time stick on an episode of breakin bbad , may shave your head grow a beard then stick the coke on the hot plate

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Cocaine is slightly soluble in acetone so you lose some everytime. Eventually you lose more than you save. I've lost $1000 of cocaine over the years trying different ways to purify it or clean shit out. I've had a lot of success too, but when you don't know what is in it, it's easy to pick the wrong solvent. Once even with ice cold water, I had one solid that sunk and another that floated, so I used a syringe and sucked the water out of the middle. That was before I had a small frit buchner funnel and vacuum pump. That thing will amaze your friends people bring their shit over and share it with me in return for running it through the buchner. Ice cold water for cocaine and boiling isopropyl for meth. I can dump the bullshit out on the counter after and you can see exactly what the amount and consistency is. A couple months ago a guy brought his 5g of meth over and I filtered ou 1.5g of table salt. He made some angry phone calls

 

[SG1234]

I'm curious about the ice cold water method would you say it has the best results? I'm looking to do some purification myself soon haven't done it in years so basically starting From scratch relearning alot of things.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

A/B extraction, now that is serious business. being able to do one is like tying your shoes, it's mandatory, but I avoid the shit out of it. I did an A)B on some meth last month and precipitated it via hcl dripped into sulfuric acid and the solvent was naptha. I done it on 5g of already-been-smoked brown stuff I pour out of the pipe each time. It was just home work for the gassing which I never done before. That being said I can get anything out of cocaine without an A/B. A triple wash with chloroform methylene chloride, even removes levamisole from the hcl without the need for neutralizing it

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

That document seems to have been scrubbed from the web. Perhaps it didn't pass peer review. A shame. In it's absence I'll present to you this document which is the document that everyone cites from " the Microgram journal"when talking about levamisole/cocaine separation. Table 1 specifically

Next I will present to you this document from the Journal of Analytic toxicology that says 79% of samples of illicit cocaine containing PTHIT (levamisole/ dextramisole) contained 30% or less w/w, and 93% contained 40%or less PTHIT relative to cocaine hcl.

So 79% of samples would contain 4.1% or less PTHIT and 93 % of the samples would contain assumably less than 8% PTHIT, after starting at 30-40% after only 1 wash of the HCL with chloroform. This data point was derived by calculating the median figures between the 30% and 50% data points to estimate for the 40% point.
Comparing the data for 5 hexane washes in that same document one could reasonably conclude that subsequent chloroform washes would improve those figured even further.
Hence I maintain my position that a chloroform/water wash on the hcl salt of cocaine is a viable method for extracting levamisole from it.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

I have a question maybe you guys can enlighten me with here with your expertise. Once upon a time I had some coke of a seriously exceptional quality. Certain it was better than fishscale, but it could possibly be subjective. I know it came from a source in the carribean. It was pale yellow colored. It was dry but its consistency seemed kind of moist, like soft snow, you could press it up into clumps. There was clumps of a dried clay consistency in it. It was powdery/grainy but also like butter - sorry it is just hard to describe, haven't seen anything like it again. The shit even had little specs of dirt and stringy plant stem material in it - talk about "raw." Now, I'm not saying it couldn't have been adulterated, but I seriously doubt it.

So I was playing around with it, like the curious cat I am. I decided to throw some with some water in a spoon and cook up a rock. No baking soda. The shit oiled right up uniformly and flashed right into a rock even faster, didn't even have time to think about trying to group it up with a penny or shocking it with anything cold. Anyway, I am kind of confused about what you guys are saying about breaking the molecule / "oiling out" with excess heat. Is this what happened and some of it stayed behind as HCl salt in the water? Because I didn't add any base to it? This always confused me. I appreciate you guys, thank you.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

The fact that it turned to oil and separated from the water is clear evidence it was base cocaine. Dirt and plant material means it basically had to be this product. Who's name depends on where you are at.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_paste

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Woops I fucked up here... You could sniff it/shoot it. It dissolved in water. I knew smokers who had to cook it if they wanted to smoke it. It wasn't THAT dirty, it was rather refined, but there was noticable organic material in it here and there. I'm thinking "fish scale" is probably the refined, recrystallized, pressed result of what this was.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

It was surely base though, or mixed with a base, 10% or better, which is the weight of hcl compared to cocaine. Well I'm lost. THEY had to cook it but you didn't. But you said you cooked it, without a base, so... A Person would have to heat it up to smoke it. BUT! When you smoke it, the fist thing that happens is you heat it up

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

" Well I'm lost. THEY had to cook it but you didn't. But you said you cooked it, without a base, so... A Person would have to heat it up to smoke it. BUT! When you smoke it, the fist thing that happens is you heat it up " WOT?

It makes about as much sense to me also. Like I said, it dissolved in water. You could sniff it or shoot it. I dissolved it in water, heated it up and it came right out and rocked up in an instant without adding any base.
You coulnd't smoke it without cooking it is what I am saying. I wasn't into smoking but people I know who smoked had to cook it like any other powder usually adding a little soda to it. Perhaps it was mixed with a base and I didn't know - what about a sulfate form?

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I have to say, in response to this thread, that I got this boulder on Friday (well, wifey bought it for me and surprised me )

And I'm down to the last gram, and I cooked every speck of it into crack and I torched it harder than I ever have. Boiled it a couple times, ran the spoon dry, ect. And I didn't seem to lose any notable amount, so it must be tougher than I anticipated.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

I miss having a sugar mama. ;]

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I got a bell ringer almost every hit off this stuff. It's weird because it isn't any better than usual but literally 9/10 was yhe Jetsons flying by on the space ship and black dudes talking outside my window. I'm still hearing people. Of course I had to smoke some crack and meth just to get the kids 8n the bus. Ain't slept in 3 days

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I got a bell ringer almost every hit off this stuff. It's weird because it isn't any better than usual but literally 9/10 was yhe Jetsons flying by on the space ship and black dudes talking outside my window. I'm still hearing people. Of course I had to smoke some crack and meth just to get the kids 8n the bus. Ain't slept in 3 days