Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

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Step 1: Prepare the phenylnitropropene solution.

Weigh 5 grams of phenylnitropropene and mix with 50 ml of isopropyl alcohol in a beaker until completely dissolved.

Then add 25 ml of glacial acetic acid and mix until homogeneous.
Step 2: Preparation of mercuric nitrate.

a) If you have mercuric nitrate, simply measure 50...100 mg for the reaction and add it after the water
step 3 Aluminum from which the foil is made must be activated for the reduction reaction. Aluminum is activated with mercury nitrate. The goal is to remove the oxide layer from the surface of the foil and not allow the mercury nitrate to completely react with the foil. Readiness is determined visually using indicators. The foil becomes completely dull and a large number of small hydrogen bubbles are released. At the moment when a precipitate begins to form at the bottom, it is necessary to drain the liquid so that the foil remains in the flask. Rinse the foil from the remaining mercury nitrate with a fresh portion of water. Drain the water again and leave the foil in the bottle.
step4 Add the phenylnitropropene solution to the flask with the prepared amalgam and place the reflux condenser on the flask. Start stirring the reaction mixture with gentle circular movements. The reaction mass begins to heat up (exothermic reaction). It is important to maintain the temperature at ~60ºC and not allow the reaction to freeze. The temperature is controlled by cooling. Sometimes an inverted refrigerator connected to running water is sufficient, but more often it is necessary to place the flask in a small tub of cold water (ice or snow). To prevent the reaction from freezing, it should be cooled quickly by immersing the flask in water and then immediately removing it. If the temperature is still high and the reaction mixture continues to rise, the cooling procedure should be repeated. Cool carefully, there is a possibility that the reaction will be stopped by excessive cooling. After the violent part of the reaction is over, the flask can be placed on the surface and stirred from time to time until the bubbling stops completely.
now 5 Dissolve 25 g of NaOH in 75 ml of water in a beaker. Dissolution is accompanied by strong heating of the liquid. Therefore, this procedure is performed in advance so that the solution cools down in due time. It is not recommended to use a hot solution.
When the reaction stops and there are no traces of reaction in the flask, add the caustic solution. It is dangerous to add the entire volume of lye at once, since the entire reaction mixture can solidify. Add 1/5 of the total volume, mix well, wait for the foam to subside, and then add more. After adding the lye, mix well and pour into a glass. Wait 30 ... 60 minutes for the mixture to break up. Wait for the clear boundaries of the layers and select the top layer. It is usually transparent, but sometimes it is yellowish.
step7 Add 10 ml of acetone to 1 ml of concentrated sulfuric acid, stir and begin acidification. Add a drop of sulfuric acid solution to the oil until the pH is 6. Use pH paper to measure the pH. Each drop will contain flakes, this is amphetamine sulfate. The result of acidification should be a mixture similar to sour cream. After acidification, the mixture should be placed in the freezer for 2-4 hours to precipitate. This "sour cream" must be filtered and dried. A dense cloth, paper filter or vacuum filtration device can be used as a filter.
is this order correct?
 

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This protocol is not complete, but it should work. The step of extracting the free base is missing, which is crucial for obtaining a higher quality and purity product. This also minimizes the risk of mercury poisoning, as mercury is toxic. I am also not sure if this amount of NaOH will be sufficient—add the solution until the pH reaches 11.
 

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Mind explaining the freebase extraction part? Shouldn't just separating the top layer be sufficient? What extraction method do you recommend?
 

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Can mercury nitrate be replaced with Gallium in the Al/Hg synthesis? And is the same amount as mercury?
 

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Theoreticaly yes, practicaly NO
 

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Guys, silly question can ga acid be substituted with another acid or OTC cheat .i have all other requirements n was keen to play around see wat I CLD fuk up on it but am stumped not having any of the glacial
 

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I had a failed first attempt and kinda fucked up big time by inhaling toxic fumes from the violent reaction.

As I poured the P2NP solution into the flask, the funnel on the flask couldn't hold itself and started bouncing (simply because of vapor pressure from the reaction). It happened so quickly that I couldn't find any time to process what's happening and to put a condenser. As a result, I inhaled some toxic fumes from the reaction and I'm not exactly sure how toxic they were but it smelled so bad. Some solution got spilled as a result and the reactants got evaporated in the early stage.

The yield from my 10g setup was like 300mg of white salt(turned out it was some basic byproduct or unreacted amphemine freebase). It tasted like a soap and had a burning sensation so I threw it away. 5-6% yield was a red sign anyway.

Some mistakes that I made that newbies can avoid:
1. Don't use a small funnel on flask: When pouring the P2NP solution in the amalgam, make sure your funnel's stem is big enough (especially w/ a >=10g setup). Smaller stem/funnel size in general can be a bottleneck and cause spillage or other adverse outcomes (you have to be very quick here to add a condenser and shake the flask).

2. Make sure you don't evaporate the solvents in the P2NP+IPA+GAA solution while heating it. Sometimes P2NP crystals may not dissolve so gentle heating may help(40-50'C) but if you heat it more then solvents like IPA would begin to evaporate and you'd lose solvents.

3. Ensure that your water is distilled and has close to zero TDS. I bought some "destilled water" bottles but they turned out to be just purified water with a 25-30 TDS. It's not a significant issue but contaminated water should be avoided in the amalgam phase to avoid unnecessary reactions with water impurities.

4. Properly acidify the amphetamine freebase before proceeding for drying. My pH papers were shit so I couldn't measure properly but you shouldn't stop before a pH of 6. Keep adding more acid solution until you reach it. Mistakes at this stage can result in a basic soapy product, not amphetamine sulfate.

5. Extract your amphetamine freebase with a non-polar solvent. The video doesn't include this part but it's an important step to not miss if you want a successful and pure yield. Something like Toluene could work. I haven't tried this it before but next time I'm going to do this.

6. If it's your first time, be very careful with the exothermic reaction when adding P2NP solution to the amalgam. In reality it can be far more violent than what's shown in the video so be prepared for that. Proper PPE and preparation can help like keeping cold water and condenser handy.



I have a few questions here for the experienced chemists:
1. How to deal with solvents volume loss? Even after a condenser and ice-baths, sometimes it can evaporate more. At what stage are we safe to add some IPA to the mixture? The video descriptions says you can add some IPA after the reaction is complete(to rinse the flask). Is that correct and if yes, how much are we talking at this scale? 15-20ml?

2. Can we add the P2NP solution slowly and in batches instead of at once? I can see this can result in more solvent evaporation but I really want to avoid overheating and violent reaction.
 

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Hello friend, can you tell me if in the synthesis of Al/Hg after the reaction of p2np with al I added too much NaOH and instead of pH 12 I got 9.5 10 or is this a bad oil A?
 

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I believe you need to keep adding more NaOH to it until it reaches pH12 or more.
 

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this means that if I add more, I don't go down in pH
 
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