Amfetamino sintezė iš P2NP per Al/Hg (vaizdo įrašas)

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What's the exact process of making the P2NP+IPA+GAA solution? Is it just mixing the appropriate quantity of each compound in a beaker, stirring it a bit and then letting it cool? I'm not sure why this part was skipped from the video.
 

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yes, exactly.
 

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or just warming up the entire solution a bit before pouring into the aluminium amalgam?
 

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8:51 - what's the shelf life of the clear oil after it's been separated?
 

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most medication has shelf life 1 year,not that it doesnt work after just that it is recomended to use it before
 

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so i have an oily residue product,what is a good way to crystalize it?
 

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You need to use a solution of acid (phosphoric or sulfuric) in IPA. This is shown and explained in detail in the video available on the forum.
 

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After that.just takes forever to dry. So recrystalize with ethanol or xylene is what im thinkn
 

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Thank you for the previous responses.

The chemist has carried out their first (successful?) reaction and, as a result, has further questions.

The test subject, who evaluated the final product, compared it to the one commonly available on the street (according to police reports found online, its purity is usually around 10-20%).

I’d like to know whether the test subject had overly high expectations of the product, or if the inexperienced chemist might have made several mistakes during the process?

What can realistically be expected from the final product, and could further experiments significantly improve its quality?

The errors that, according to the chemist, may have affected the final product include:

• Completely skipping extraction with DCM (the chemist was prepared for it but lacked sufficient theoretical knowledge).

• Drying the product for too short a time and at too high a temperature.

Could this affect the product’s quality?

Does extraction with DCM involve adding DCM to the free base and collecting the appropriate layer? If so, are the layers clearly distinguishable, and which one (top/bottom) contains the product?

Could @G.Patton @William D. provide their input on this?
Thank you!
 

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Hello.
It is quite subjective, has he checked its melting point? Isomer ratio also play role in the product activity. In addition, there is direct dependence between its purity and potency.

It's hard to estimate its quality in accordance with your description. You should check its purity in laboratory (such as EnergyControl or so) and then try to find a problem. Is your product absolutely white?

this step is quite important in order to increase the reaction yield and get rid of Hg salts in final product.

It also can influence on the product quality in case of air exposure during its strong heating.

Yes, he has to add DCM to the reaction mixture stir it well and then separate layers. DCM layer is clearly be determinated by its transparency and smell.

By the way, will you sell your product here?
 

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Thank you!


No measurements were made, and the product was not 100% pure.


After adding the sodium hydroxide solution to the mixture, an oily layer separated after some time. So, should DCM be added to it after separation, or already at the stage of adding sodium hydroxide? I’m an amateur with a new hobby :) As you can see, I still have a lot to learn. I’ll follow the instructions and keep you updated on the progress. Any sale at this point is out of the question.
 

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>So, should DCM be added to it after separation, or already at the stage of adding sodium hydroxide?

It has to be added after NaOH aq sln addition and 5-10min stirring in order to let it reacts.
 

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Can I substitute DCM for Acetone in Amphetamine Synthesis?

Hey fellow chemists!

I'm currently working through an amphetamine synthesis protocol (thanks to Amine expert guidance) and I'm curious about substituting dichloromethane (DCM) for acetone. Specifically, I'm wondering if it's possible to use DCM as a replacement in the following steps:


  • Work-up: after extracting with DCM, could I use it again to wash the organic layer instead of acetone?
I understand that DCM is generally less polar than Acetone, so I'm worried about potential issues with solubility or contamination. Has anyone tried substituting DCM in this protocol before? Are there any specific concerns I should be aware of?

Thanks for sharing your experiences and expertise!
 
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