Synthesis of Amphetamine from P2NP via SnCl2 and Zn

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what can be used instead of magnesium sulphate
 

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magnesium sulfate is very easy to get worldwide I think. Are you having problems getting it?

and you need to make it completely dry before using it. I put mine in a microwave.
 

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Same problem here...
After Zinc and Hydroxidation yellow stuff on top and after addition of DCM:
Clean solution on top (PH7 on a scale of 14) and Milky stuff on the bottom (PH 11)...
But on your pics it is different..

Which route you use? Propene to Oxime by SnCl2/HCl and then?

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I'm not sure about the timing... GAA -> Zinc -> NaOH ?? Max. Temperature ??

StepEquipmentChemicals
1. PREPARE;Beaker 100ml15g P2NP; 50ml Acetone
2. PREPARE;Beaker 500mlNaOH, H2O 1:1 Solution (200g;200ml)
3. PREPARE;Beaker 150mlNaOH, H2O 1:2 Solution (50g;100ml)
4. PREPARE;Flask 250ml, Temperature Sensor, Reflux Condenser50ml Acetone; 42g SnCl2; P2NP Solution;
5. ADD;50ml Acetone; 42g SnCl2;
6. ADD;P2NP Solution;
7. WORK; 20 Min.Stirrer
8. PREPARE;Beaker 150ml;HCl Solution (150ml H2O; 4ml HCl;)
9. ADD; To FlaskHCl Solution
10. PREPARE;Beaker 1000ml
11. ADD;Transfer Mixture to Beaker
12. ADD;400ml NaOH Prepared 1:1 Solution; !PH11!
13. PREPARE;500ml Beaker, Buchner, Erlenmeyer, SyringeEthyl Acetate,MgSO4
14. EXTRACT;Stirrer, Syringe3x50ml Ethyl Acetate
15. DRY;MgSO4
16. FILTRATE;Erlenmeyer, Buchner
17. PREPARE;500ml Flask, Stirrer60ml GAA, 10g Zinc
18. ADD;60ml GAA
19. ADD;Mixtue of Oxime
20. ADD;10g Zinc
21. WORK; 15 Min.Stirrer
22. PREPAREBuchner, Erlenmeyer
22. ADD;150ml NaOH Prepared 1:2 Solution; !PH11!
23. FILTRATE;Erlenmeyer, Buchner
24. PREPARE;500ml Beaker, Buchner, Erlenmeyer50ml DCM
25. ADD;Filtrated Mixture
26. ADD;50ml DCM
27. PREPARE;100ml Beaker, SyringeMgSO4
28. SEPARATE;Syringe;The DCM layer is the bottom layer.
29. DRY;MgSO4
30. FILTRATE;Erlenmeyer, Buchner
31. PREPARE;250ml Beaker, Buchner, Erlenmeyer50ml Acetone; Desired Acid
32. ADD;Filtrated Organic Layer
33. ADD;50ml Acetone
34. ADD;Desired Acid
29. COOL;Freezer
35. FILTRATE;Erlenmeyer, Buchner
220 Min.
 
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Are you add this as one portion or slow=How long? It reacts very exothermic
 

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I got 5 grams of amphetamine from 15 grams of p2np.​


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How long do needed for the zinc part? (H2 Generation)
 

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u recomend this reaction? Or the aluminum? Or the copper?
 

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How to dry the product after filtration I do not have a vacuum filtration set
 

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Filtration with Coffee filter and acetone + let it dry on air.
 
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~5-10ml per g
 

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and stir a little bit but with caution... another solution is a old jeans and press it
 

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How long did it take for the H2 generation with zinc? (Until the amin-base was ready)
 
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Did you cooled the Mixture?
Did you add all of the NaOH? Slow or Fast? (on both situations)
What was the maximum temperature while addition?
 

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I did not cool the mixture
In stage 2, yes, the reaction is indeed exothermic. I added it slowly.
 
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If you want to make alkali, use sodium carbonate instead of sodium hydroxide. Maybe your problem will be solved. I use sodium carbonate.
 
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Could you post a ingrediance list?
 

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I think he is away
 

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1-Phenyl-2-Nitropropene
15​
g
Acetone
50​
ml
Sn(II)Cl * 2H2O
42​
g
Acetone
50​
ml
HCl
4​
ml
Water
150​
ml
NaOH
200​
g
Water
200​
ml
Ethyl Acetate
150​
ml
MgSO420% of the volume of final solution
ACETIC ACID (GAA)
60​
ml
Zinc
10​
g
NaOH
50​
g
H2O
100​
ml
DCM
110​
ml
MgSO420% of the volume of final solution
Acetone
50​
ml
 
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