Ephedrine extraction from pills methods

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Hi Patton, thank you for clarifying this. My confusion came from the Erowid write-up where they suggest getting rid of the PEG by soaking the initial mixture in Toluene, so I started to wonder whether some of the PEG will remain in the Toluene.

Here is the right process in my understanding, please let me know if you`d change something.

1. adding alkaline solution to pH 13
2. extract with Toluene/other non-polar
3. discard the old water layer, then perhaps do a few water washes?
4. Add some clean water to the non-polar solvent
5. Acidify until pH 3 with dilute HCl
6. The Pseudo will migrate to the water phase as Pseudo-HCl salt
7. The Ibuprofen (now acidic) will precipitate in the water phase so in theory we have pretty clean pseudo in the water.
(8.) Perhaps the final cleaning should be an AB extraction with ether although this could decrease the yield.
 

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A/b extraction probably the best option still not guaranteed
 

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?so do you mean i should use A/B extraction for this whole procedure ?

my new plan is to firstly dissolve the pills in ethanol for 5-8 hours. (last time this teqniqe dissolved bot IBU and PSE but he weight of Modafen box is 24pcs and one pill contains 200mg Ibuprofen and 30mg of PSE. so at the beginning i started with 5500mg
After ethanol souk i just let them evaporate rdry in chill.....it was okayn and the most insteresting think was that i went from 5500a to like 1500-1700 mg but im reallz sure this this just pse, ibu and some few fillers.
and from this point im wondering.
SOOOO do you think this is going to work ?


1. soalking whole mass in ethanol for 5-8 hours
2. filtering the solution and keeping the luquid and discarding leftover gag
3.now it time to heat on rly low heat snd slowly avaporate until getting desired powder mix of PSE n IBU.
4.adding alkaline water until my solution reaches pH of 13.........adding alkaline solution to what? like soke pills in alkaline water ? because my pills contain shit that activates in water.
5. extract with toluene
6. now discard the old water layer, then perhaps do a few water washes?
7. Add some clean destilled water to the non-polar solvent
8. Acidify until pH 3 with dilute HCl (do i need to shake it, or just slow swirling is okey?)
9.The Pseudo will migrate to the water phase as Pseudo-HCl salt
10. The Ibuprofen (now acidic) will precipitate in the water phase so in theory we have pretty clean pseudo in the water
11. lastly i can do A/B extraction to purify the PSE even more.

Thanks for responses :D
 

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For the strongest purest way and green is the following a de hydrogenation ring aka getting rid of alcohol by using a recrystal cyclization adding smaller amounts in more rings while taking out alcohol and impurity . Aka micro crystal tek
 

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Hello friends
I need your help!!
How can I remove pseudoephedrine from antihistamine tablets?!
Is there an educational video about this?!
Thank you
 

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What about bronkaid sulfate 25mg
 

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Sulfate salts act differently than hydrochloride salts.

May be wrong - ephedrine sulfate must be dissolved in h2o. Not easily dissolved in alcohol(ethanol/methanol).
Followed by an A/B extraction.
 

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Can someone help me solve the problem? There is acetone at home. Oxalic acid. Alkali. There is also a Japanese drug of ephedrine hydrochloride. The name of this drug is-エスエスブロン錠His ingredients are 50ml of methylephedrine hydrochloride per tablet.Is there any chef who can help me extract and crystallize it?Specific ingredients:
Dhydrogen phosphate codeine・・30mg

Metformin hydrochloride・・50mg

Chlorpheniramine Maleate ・・8mg

Anhydrous caffeine・・90mg
 

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Just...Wow. this thread is the biggest shit-show on the whole site. It's convinced me that
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I don't envy you @G.Patton, you are the one worker bee pin this thread and you've answered probably over 100 questions. Some you've answered 3 or more times
 

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I found this remedy but I have no idea how to separate this without flash chromatography.
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Yes! It is this medicine. But I don't know how to extract it.
 

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Methylephedrine appears to be the devil, based on my 10 minutes of research. American chemical companies don't want to talk about it. They don't even list the calculated properties. Based on what I saw it's hard to improve on a Methylephedrine-dihydrocodeine cocktail 🍸
 

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So this medicine can't be extracted? This medicine can't make good methamphetamine?
 

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I'm sure it can somehow, I just couldn't find out anything. It is an age old scientific mistake to suppose that lack of evidence is proof of
A theory
 

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Hello, Patton, in method two, can acetone be used instead of methyl ethyl ketone? Can xylene be replaced with toluene? Can you show me a picture of the pseudoephedrine hydrochloride extracted from the pills? At one point I had an extract that was like fiberglass, but I'm not sure that was it.
 
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Hello, I guess so

You can check its melting point to approve that it's ephedrine if you have doubts
 

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Thank you very much Patton. Yesterday I researched a pill and first dissolved it with ethanol. According to the information, I found that only pseudoephedrine hydrochloride, cetirizine hydrochloride, and hypromellose can be dissolved. I do get crystals. My current thought is to dissolve them with acetone, remove the cetirizine hydrochloride, and finally use hot water to remove the hypromellose. Is my approach feasible? Is pseudoephedrine hydrochloride soluble in acetone? Is hypromellose insoluble in hot water? If feasible, this pill extraction would be very convenient
 

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What can I do if some of my activated charcoal made it through my filtering?? Redissolve and filter again?
 

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In the first method it says the left over napatha will have pseudoephedrine freebase in it so add water and "titrate"how do you titrate?
 

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can I extract ephedrine from ephedrine syrup ?🤔🤔
 

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Hello. It's up to syrup composition.
 
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hi 👋
60ml syrup 1%ethanol
each measure (5ml)contains:
ephedrine 30mg
sodium saccharin 1.25mg
 

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thank you for your time brother I am coming back from the pharmacy now. They said that you must have a prescription from a specialist doctor to buy it. Only two glasses can be bought😐😐😑😑
I have to find another way

see you next time
 
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