4MMC/MEC large crystals

[Sopranos]

Why do people like large crystals?

 

[xile]

Cause loads of 500g are rarely for own use and crystals seems to be cleaner then powder or shattered little crastals, because as a retailer you could mix something in there to stretch.

 

[johnny.b]

What method is good for evaporate when You mix HCL with water.If possibile is little cook to 70-80 degrees or this can damage product or will be less yield?

 

[xile]

We have a Script herein in forum, where you can crystalize in the water layer, therefore its just pure 30-38% HCl efforded.

 

[johnny.b]

I want try this and now I have much to evaporate will be last forever.Before I use concentrate HCl even without acetone always comes good .Now I don't know how to evaporate fast

 

[xile]

Just theory:
As faster you evaporate the Fluid as smaler the crystals are. They need room to build.

 

[johnny.b]

Yes I have one time situtation with blue colour .What proportions HCl with aceton will be good 1:5 or can be less?

 

[xile]

HCl 1:10 Aceton.
Reade Topic. Everything you ask is in there. In forum is a recipe with DCM with crystallisation in the water layer and a recipe with benzene or toluene and crystallisation from oil layer.

 

[Heineken]

u dont need use acetone.
if u have pure powder aceton u dont need.

 

[Mellym]

Not that I'm boasting, but once there was a time...

 

[Tony]

You did it with ipa too?

 

[Mellym]

No. my experience of using alcohols (IPA, ethanol, methanol) as crystalising solution showed that you get small? sand-like crystals. Although rather pure, but they never had grown big in size.

 

[Tony]

Can you tell me the details please?

 

[Mellym]

Hi.
This was done by dissolving in mixture of water&acetone. The solution must be clear, not cloudy or misty. An then it was left in dark kitchen locker for about a week or so.
Hope this could be useful for you or anyone.

 

[Heineken]

what temprature need ?

 

[Heineken]

now is 2h grow
next hours they will be biger and biger

 

[Heineken]

now is 3.5h.
Go sleep and tomorow check.

 

[Dexterror]

What method do you use for this?

 

[Heineken]

the same like on video

 

[Heineken]

now is 10h and need dry and this all

 

[Heineken]

need only wash with acetone and they are like glass

 

[w2x3f5]

small rock

 

[Albert A]

Can you please explain how you managed to make such a beautiful crystal?

 

[Heineken]

My new way made crystal now they are fucking hard and is very hard crash with credit card and they are real big ✓
Now they are grow is 1 day

 

[w2x3f5]

bromination step problem, to much bromine and this give after yellow meph

 

[Heineken]

For today nice ice pure crystal.
need dry 1h and this all ready to use

 

[antrax]

what´s the point of crystals and not leave it in the hydrochloride form? I don't think a crystal can be snorted.
can you explain it to me, thank you!!

 

[Heineken]

i see u dont understend chemistry is the point.
powder can be white but still dirty inside when u made crystal then u get product max pure and u lost % product on the weight. u know what they say on it 4mmc hydrochloride or 4mmc sulphuric?

 

[antrax]

I have no idea about chemistry, I'm trying to learn, I understand that for example, MDMA in crystal form is usually more pure than in its hydrochloride form, then 4-MMC, bk-MDMA...) in crystal form it should be more expensive than in the hydrochloride form since it would be more pure.
but what I don't understand is how they are consumed in crystal form? you grind them to form a powder or what?

 

[antrax]

 

[xile]

Are you on the right webside? Of cours the crystals where grindet and snorted or crystals where eaten.