Sort tjære fra rå opium

[G.Patton]

Du har helt ret. Du kan tilsætte eddikesyreanhydrid mellem 5-6 trin for at acetylere morfin. Juster pH ~3, og neutraliser efter en times omrøring til pH ~5,5-6 med natriumbicarbonat.

 

[Nikolas]

Hej J. Patton, tak for din fine artikel. Har du lige syntetiseret dette produkt fra tørrede valmuebælge? Blev der ikke brugt opium i syntesen?

 

[Nikolas]

Ja, jeg kalder dette produkt opium ... men du brugte kun tørre kapselbælge, har jeg ret?

 

[G.Patton]

Denne metode er skrevet til en produktion af sort tjære. Man kan lave heroin af latex, men sort tjære er et meget dårligere produkt.

 

[Nikolas]

Tak for forklaringen

 

[Nikolas]

Jeg bruger Translite til at oversætte tekster. Mener du citronsaft, citronsyre? Eller bruger du naturlig citronsaft? Hvad mener du med citronsaft?

 

[G.Patton]

Citronsaft er en væske, som presses ud af citronfrugter.

 

[Zippy53]

Jeg fulgte den meget nemme og velbeskrevne opskrift og var i stand til at udvinde en meget fin røgbar kugle af rå opium ... Tak, hr. Patton, for de nemme instruktioner!
Har du nogen erfaring med at tage den udvundne opiumgummi og skabe morfin hcl?

 

[Dr.Mirakulix]

Det er flot! Hvor mange valmuer brugte du?

Der er et dokument, hvor processen med at isolere morfin fra rå opium (og også yderligere behandling og raffinering for at få temmelig høj procentdel heroin), som det gøres af afghanske valmuebønder, er dokumenteret og forklaret meget godt.
Jeg har ikke selv prøvet det endnu, men det vil jeg helt sikkert gøre i løbet af de næste par uger. Måske er der en anden, der kan sige noget om, hvorvidt og hvordan det er muligt at nedskalere udvindingsteknikken, så den passer til et lille opiumudbytte fra en hjemmeavl eller lignende.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Nice post! Awesome simple little heroin tek.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Jeg ville personligt være meget interesseret i at se dette. Det ville løse MANGE problemer for mig. Det ser og lyder godt @Zippy53! Må jeg spørge, om du personligt overvågede dyrkningen, eller hvordan man kan få fat i råmaterialerne? Jeg bor i et nordligt klima, nærmere bestemt i nærheden af Boston - jeg går ikke ud fra, at de kan dyrkes udendørs i løbet af sæsonen? Jeg har et LED-lys eller to til dyrkning af marihuana, det burde ikke være et problem at have en valmue eller to i skabet? Hvor lang tid tager det fra spiring til høst? Er der en pålidelig frøleverandør i nærheden? Jeg kan sikkert finde oplysninger om dyrkning på erowid, hvis ikke her ...
Tak på forhånd for at underholde mine dumme spørgsmål. De bedste ønsker.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

To answer some my own naive questions. Poppies grow just fine in northern climates, some even prefer. Seeds which can be acquired in abundance, grocery store variety are active but weak, better strains can be found online, can be cast effortlessly and without much care onto loose soil almost anywhere during autumn or early spring and these things will grow. Indoors works but outdoor is better - you need alot more than 1 or 2. It only takes 2-3 months from start to finish. If sewn in autumn, they hibernate of course.

 

[Chemtrail]

Swim absolutely loves this science article !!!!

question, what would happen if the temperature where to go above 60 C ???

What do you mean by "activate' ???

 

[mewnmewamine]

Im assuming he means they will decompose but id like to see a source because those temps sure as shit aint true they're wayyyy too low and you can literally smoke morphine! Like thats what he is suggesting you do anyway ^^
on top of that morphine can be purified by sublimation at 190°C lol
So do not worry about the heat
(0-o)

 

[Chemtrail]

Swim looked up on a search engine " codiene activates 68 celsius "

... The author of this BB post isn't talking about a CYP2D6 enzyme of metabolism? Lol

But got this : What temperature does codeine degrade?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

Concentrations of the Opium Alkaloids Morphine, Codeine, and Thebaine in Poppy Seeds are Reduced after Thermal and Washing Treatments but are Not Affected when Incorporated in a Model Baked Product - PMC

Limited information exists on the effectiveness of potential treatments to reduce levels of opium alkaloids that may be present in seeds from poppy (Papaver somniferum L.). Poppy seeds containing morphine at relatively lower (14.7 mg kg−1) and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

HERE'S FROM THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE:
"The results from the heat treatment experiments indicated that the three major opium alkaloids are relatively stable. At 120 °C, minimal, if any, alkaloid degradation was observed after 120 min. With the experimental temperature at 200 °C, the half-life of morphine and codeine was found to be approximately 32–39 min, while thebaine was only 3 min. As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.30 Use of heat treatments in this range of temperatures to promote opium alkaloid degradation would not likely be useful, as they will likely affect the sensory aspects of poppy seeds."

***THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE ALSO ILLUSTRATED THAT THERE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE OPIUM ALKALOIDS IN POPPY SEEDS ! ***

Swim used a search engine "morphine activates 82 C"

The author of this BB post isn't talking about "a signal on a G protein cascade " ? Lol

But got this : What temperature does morphine break down?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

Concentrations of the Opium Alkaloids Morphine, Codeine, and Thebaine in Poppy Seeds are Reduced after Thermal and Washing Treatments but are Not Affected when Incorporated in a Model Baked Product - PMC

Limited information exists on the effectiveness of potential treatments to reduce levels of opium alkaloids that may be present in seeds from poppy (Papaver somniferum L.). Poppy seeds containing morphine at relatively lower (14.7 mg kg−1) and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

*∆ Great Link about Poppy Seeds !

 

[Chemtrail]

Effect of thermal treatment on opium alkaloids

(See chart in attachment)