Question Et par spørgsmål om kokain, og hvordan man skærer det væk

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Hej alle sammen,
dette er mit første indlæg, og jeg håber ikke, at jeg har overset, at dette spørgsmål allerede er besvaret et andet sted. På forhånd tak for enhver hjælp og for dette forum generelt, det er en sand fornøjelse at gennemgå alt dette kvalitetsindhold her på forummet!

Nu til mit spørgsmål/problem. Heldigvis som mig og mine venner er, var vi i stand til at se og bruge kokain i Colombia, virkelig god kokain fra en pålidelig kilde. Jeg er en mere lejlighedsvis kokainbruger og bruger kun meget god kokain til europæiske standarder. Før jeg besøgte Colombia, var den såkaldte "fiskeskæl" min favorit, den så saftig ud, og hver test, jeg lavede (hurtige tests og også energikontrol), fortalte mig, at den er meget ren (jeg har sendt energikontrolprøver, der indeholdt 85-95% kokain uden nedskæringer fundet - i det mindste ingen aktive eller kendte nedskæringer). Jeg var meget glad, også mine kunder og alle andre for kvaliteten.

Men i Colombia så vi også denne fiskeskælskokain, men det, der virkelig fik min opmærksomhed, var den mere matte kokain, der ikke lignede fiskeskæl så meget. Dens rus var meget renere. Vi har en colombiansk ven, som ikke er særlig interesseret i forretning, men som også siger, at der er en forskel, som mest påvirker europæisk kokain (eller al eksporteret kokain generelt). Jeg havde virkelig ikke lyst til at tro på det, selvom jeg vidste, at der var noget om snakken.

For et par dage siden ledte jeg efter oplysninger om dette og fandt en sælger i Storbritannien, som netop sælger det, der ser ud til at være forskellen. Han kalder det "imitates", de skulle lave kokain som det fiskeskæl, alle gerne vil have, og det har også de samme effekter + det kan øge rusen. De promoverer det også som uopdageligt ved energikontrol, og efter en vask skulle der stadig være 80-90% af hele produktet tilbage, hvis det skæres 1:1. De tilbyder også noget, der hedder supermix. Og mange andre udskæringer for at manipulere kokainoptikken til en mere i Europa foretrukken stil.

Vi gav basere nogle af vores uslebne ting, de var chokerede og fortalte os, at de i lang tid ikke har haft sådan en ren rus. Så mine spørgsmål er:

Er der nogen, der har en anelse om, hvad de helt præcist bruger til at skære det?
Hvordan opnår de fiskeskæls-looket?
Hvordan kan en kokainvask ikke vaske det ud af det?
Hvorfor kan energikontrollen ikke opdage det?

Eller er jeg bare en idiot? Jeg håber det ikke, men måske kan I fortælle mig det, haha.

Venlig hilsen, troldmand
 

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Tak for det. Det lyder endda logisk for en som mig, der ikke er særlig interesseret i kemi.
 

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aux pays bas en particulier a rotterdam ont trouve facilement des produits de coupe comme : la mix,supermix,levimasole,mannitol,turbo,lydocaine,isotonol,et il ya une coupe qui coute assez chere qui a le nom de colombiana cest la plus tendance mais cher 3500 a 4000€ le kg si quelqun serait comment lave a lacetone avec un tuto ou des explication ca serait vraiment cool a la communauté
 
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in the Netherlands, especially in Rotterdam, you can easily find cutting products like: mix, supermix, levimasole, mannitol, turbo, lydocaine, isotonol, and there is a cut that is quite expensive called Colombiana, it is the most trendy but expensive 3500 to 4000€ per kg if anyone knows how to wash with lacetone with a tutorial or explanations that would be really cool for the community
 

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Before any one of you dumbos tries the cuts that he listed, just so you know, almost all of them can be detected by experienced dealers and junkies. I hope one of you tries and gets the shit kicked out of them, because this is such a plague in the coke community that it is not even funny.

100% pure cocaine only needs relatively tight space, some water to pull (even from atmosphere) and it will clump up by itself.. if you start adding the cuts this guy listed, not only will you lose customers (trust me, half of the things he listed do not even behave like cocaine and I am talking about tests you can do in the field with no special instruments), but you will never get it to shine like the fishscale you want.
 

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of course it is better to sell it and consume it pure and not touch it but I was only responding to a post on this subject I would list a little what I saw after everyone is free to do what they want
 

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You use a little sieve to sift the coca

You put a plate in the microwave for 20 seconds.
Put the coke on the plate
Use a razor
Add it to the microwave on the plate for 10 seconds if you need it but heating the plate first somehow makes it drier.

Coke on East coast is damper than West Coast
Coke in Cartagena is oh so amazing, cheap, clean, etc.

Don't dilute the purity you have, if anything clean it up.
 

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Heat plating is used since cocaine is very hygroscopic. If left out, it will form nice fishscale rocks, but it will also retain moisture - to put it up your nose and have it absorb nicely, you heat up a plate in the microwave, take it out like you said and put the coke on it and finely chop it up with a razor - it should get rid of the residual water.

Another reason that it could be damp if it was washed/cut/synthesized and not properly dried after from the solvent - in this case you also want to put it on a heated plate.

Third reason is some bricks were either made by amateurs or hurried along and there are oils remaining in the coca - after washing the solvent will evaporate and you will be left with oily yellowish to brownish residue - a very small amount, for an ounce it will be a couple drops, however this also makes the cocaine "damp", sometimes even unable to lump up and "crystallize" and for the average user putting it on a heated plate will allow the oils to dry up, so that they can snort their product.
 

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by drying the cocaine of its moisture it will lose its weight? and on a larger quantity the process is the same?:)
 

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Well the answer is of course to both of these... YES. The weight is marginal really, few ounces, playing this, you will be wasting time instead of selling it right away. The process really only changes in very large amounts, where you can actually speed it up by dropping just a few drops of distilled water or spraying a few times distilled water on top of a kilogram and wrap this back up tightly to speed the process up. If you do it with less, you will use one drop of distilled water and reduce almost a gram of cocaine salt into a puddle that takes forever to dry by itself.. you need to have enough product to create a nice pillow under the product that will immediately dissolve and for the product to have enough bulk to later pull this humidity and absorb it rather quick - it would most likely be a bad look selling cocaine that is half wet...

At least this is how I do it.. but like I said, this is regarding pure cocaine. I said in another thread - this is not rocket science. There is no two methods to make cocaine hcl, for one to be dry immediately and the other immediately one big rock, it's just the salt absorbing water, forms beautiful patterns...


Now maybe if I was Pablo Escobar level and I needed to satisfy someone and make it rock and not powder, even though I sell the product pure.. (read and realize how ridiculous this sounds even...) maybe I would experiment with some sort of chamber where you can pass humidity into at a controlled pace? Just an idea..
 
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