A beautiful view at the solvated electrons
Question Looking for a vendor Some pictures of my refined one pot methamphetamine method, thoughts??
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Big fat fail, sorry dude. A person can not hope to revolutionize a process without first mastering the current popular method. You might get a little something, those little gold specks are your solvated e-, lithium bronze, itnshould have used up most or all of thenlithium, but there's a ton left. You'll never achieve blue e- without anhydrous ammonia and sub zero temperatures
so i should keep the reaction going until the lithium is mostly gone? and possibly use dry ice or something to keep it cold, and im pretty sure it still reduces to methamphetamine
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I don't know how much lithium you used but perhaps a shitload more than necessary. It's been a minute since I calculated but I was thinking 1 lithium AA battery (=1gram of lithium) is the amount for 5 boxes of pills ( 6 grams of pseudo) of course you usually lose some lithium to the water thats produced, ehat I don't get, though, is your not building any pressure here, so your ammonia gas is flying out of there. My feeling is this couldn't possibly work, but then I see those little bronze specks and obviously you produced a tiny bit of solvated electron. Ephedrine will get you pretty high, if you've never tried it. I say don't throw that stuff away, 90%+ is still pseudofed
i placed a stopper on the flask with a super tiny hole so it can stay in but not have too much pressure
I don't know how much lithium you used but perhaps a shitload more than necessary. It's been a minute since I calculated but I was thinking 1 lithium AA battery (=1gram of lithium) is the amount for 5 boxes of pills ( 6 grams of pseudo) of course you usually lose some lithium to the water thats produced, ehat I don't get, though, is your not building any pressure here, so your ammonia gas is flying out of there. My feeling is this couldn't possibly work, but then I see those little bronze specks and obviously you produced a tiny bit of solvated electron. Ephedrine will get you pretty high, if you've never tried it. I say don't throw that stuff away, 90%+ is still pseudofed
For shake and bake its 1g to 2g lithium to sudo pill. If u clean the pills it’s 1g:1g ratio.
1liter sodastream, 240mgsudo,1.5 aa lithium battery, 1/4 cup ammonia, 1/2 cup lye, 10oz naphtha. Crush the side and the ammonia in blender or mortar and pestle. Add all this to soda stream with the powders first then naphtha then lithium. No water added at all. If the ammonia is good quality the rxn wil start itself, if it needs a little boost apply a little heat with a hot water bath or a hair dryer. Just enough to make it go. I don’t want this to get too hot at all. Once it’s rolling get it to a good pressure, u want to be able to press ur thumb in on the bottle still at least so u know u have room to burp, without worry of it blowing up. Once at that amount of pressure roughly apply the soda stream to an ice bath. Cooling it will reduce pressure but still keep the ammonia gas, so it will still dissolve lithium, even with less pressure. Got this done with literally no pressure before because it was on ice bath the whole time. Just depend on how u do it. The lithium should fully dissolve after 2-4 hours. The solvent shouldn’t go dark blueish grey and then back to clear when finished as well. Pour off solvent, any slight excess lithium should be stored in separate solvent, to burn. Or put in a stack of coffee filters that are wet with solvent and left to oxidize in the most dry place u have. It will turn to lithium oxide powder and will not be dangerous of exploding. One lithium battery explosion is about 5ft worth of fire like a jet it’s like the 4th of July for 15 min. It sucks. Then add 10oz new solvent to the soda stream for ur second pull to see if there was any missing, let sit for 30 -60 min and pour that off also. Acidify the poured off solvent by water and hcl to ph3 or gas it with aluminum and hcl or sulfuric and salt to ph 3. Dry and ur done. Then acetone wash and recrystalize with ethanol. And that’s as good as that tek gets without purifying the sudo to ephedrine before cook. That is the correct way to do that. U can make changes of solvent if u like another. And that’s about it.
If you post what exactly you did, the hive mind will probably ive you some help. Once the lithium is oxidizes like this, it isn't going to react anymore
would using an inert atomosphere like argon work? and pre cooling the flask in the freezer, i do not have access to dry ice, would a stopper with saram wrap wrapped around it work to hold pressure?
Looks like it’s not working lol
how? the reaction died down, before that video was taken it was rapidly boiling
It’s not about the boiling it’s about dissolving the lithium metal, turning it gold, and then dissolving it till it’s gone completly. It take 1g lithium to reduce 2g of Sudo pills. If all u do is get a little color out of the lithium then ur product is maybe only 5-10% pure at best. U can easily still do a 50% pure product from shake. But u gota do it correct.
Ur probly not getting a good pressure gauge on the flask I think I see there. It’s hard to maintain correctly if u don’t know the reaction that well
ok next synthesis ill keep a stopper wrapped in saram wrap on the flask
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I would seriously get a soda stream or brisk tea bottle of 1 liter. And use that till u know it enough to feel it out through visual. That rxn is easy after time spent. I’m having trouble with the amalgam rxn atm. And I can’t get no sudo to do any others. If u like the flask and sudo so much just do a red phosphorus cook.
U will need to make the red phosphorus also. Both easy. I will say the iodine is messy and it smells like shit. If u don’t recrystlaize the iodine it is only good for a few days maybe. So make it when u need only. That one takes up to two days also.
lithium just oxidizes wayy to quickly when starting the reaction so it didnt produce the solvated electrons but it dissolved and broke to smaller pieces but most was still there