Recristallization of methamphetamine

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1. It s D-methyl I think. I m not a chimist and never did analyse of it but it should be this one.

2. Using acétone and water, about 20g of meth, I use 1dl of acetone and heat it just befor the boiling point. Then in average I use 8 - 9.5ml of water and stirred well until nearly all meth is dissolved.
Then I cover with aluminium foil and cling film and wrap my container with 1 kitchen towel to slow down the cooling process.

3. At the moment I leave to cool for 4 to 6 hours in the open air, depending on the quantity (10 - 20g).
Then either I collect the shards before continuing the cooling process in the fridge (mine is set at 3°C) and then in the freezer, or I put the whole thing directly into the fridge and then the freezer...
If you only let it cool at room temperature you will lost a lot of product.
Continue cooling as described to recover as much product as possible.
When no more crystals form, evaporate the liquid to recover as much as possible.

I usually collect the crystals formed at room temperature before putting them in the fridge, as cooling in the fridge is quicker so the crystals become smaller.

Voilà, I hope I answered your question..
Otherwise tell me.

Cheers
 

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1. It s D-methyl I think. I m not a chimist and never did analyse of it but it should be this one.

2. Using acétone and water, about 20g of meth, I use 1dl of acetone and heat it just befor the boiling point. Then in average I use 8 - 9.5ml of water and stirred well until nearly all meth is dissolved.
Then I cover with aluminium foil and cling film and wrap my container with 1 kitchen towel to slow down the cooling process.

3. At the moment I leave to cool for 4 to 6 hours in the open air, depending on the quantity (10 - 20g).
Then either I collect the shards before continuing the cooling process in the fridge (mine is set at 3°C) and then in the freezer, or I put the whole thing directly into the fridge and then the freezer...
If you only let it cool at room temperature you will lost a lot of product.
Continue cooling as described to recover as much product as possible.
When no more crystals form, evaporate the liquid to recover as much as possible.

I usually collect the crystals formed at room temperature before putting them in the fridge, as cooling in the fridge is quicker so the crystals become smaller.

Voilà, I hope I answered your question..
Otherwise tell me.

Cheers
JimMoriSon27Hello sir,


I keep having the same problem i really hope you could help me.

I also have d-meth and use your method and had succes one time. After i repeat the proces with the same meth i keep having the same problem over and over. If you could give me some advise, it would be much appreciated !

While crystallizing the crystals stick around the side of the beaker and look alot like mdma when finished. I dont understand why it does that and i'm wondering if you ever had the same problem. If so, what did you do to fix it ? I repeated the proces many times but i keep getting the same results. Any advice is welcome !
 
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Do you use anhydrous acetone and distilled water ?
If yes, did you add the water all in one time or little by little and even drop by drop until almost everything has to be diluted?
JimMoriSon27Yes i used anhydrous acetone but i use regular tap water.

(I use all the ratios you provided)
Step 1. I dissolve meth in in boiling water and stir till it is all dissolved. (Yes i add all the water in 1 time)

Step 2. In a separate pan i heat aceton to around 50 degrees celsius and add to the meth/water mixture.

Step 3. Stir and let temprature rise to 52-55 max till it starts bubbling.

Step 4. I trow everyting through a filter, cover with aluminum and cling film and leave to rest for 4-6 hours at room temp (about 20 degrees celcius).

Step 5. I put the whole beaker in the fridge for about 12 hours and then freeze for 12 hours more.

Thanks for the fast reply ! I hope we can work this out
 

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Yes i used anhydrous acetone but i use regular tap water.

(I use all the ratios you provided)
Step 1. I dissolve meth in in boiling water and stir till it is all dissolved. (Yes i add all the water in 1 time)

Step 2. In a separate pan i heat aceton to around 50 degrees celsius and add to the meth/water mixture.

Step 3. Stir and let temprature rise to 52-55 max till it starts bubbling.

Step 4. I trow everyting through a filter, cover with aluminum and cling film and leave to rest for 4-6 hours at room temp (about 20 degrees celcius).

Step 5. I put the whole beaker in the fridge for about 12 hours and then freeze for 12 hours more.

Thanks for the fast reply ! I hope we can work this out
Mysticsea3You dissolve meth in boiling water? Why?
I never try that so I can't say or not that s the mistake.
You should try to put your product and acetone together in a recipient like beaker or a bow first (think to crush your meth as fine as possible so the process will be faster) and heat the meth/acetone solution just above the boiling point of acetone which should be at 55-56°C.
Then put your water ( distillated water should be use there because we are doing nothing else that a purification by recristallisation..)
But adding water is for example 7 - 8 ml first then stirr and wait the temperature to reach 53-55°C again so you can add dropwise water until nearly any of the cristal meth is dissoluted.
If you add more water than necessary, the product will be lost.
 

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You dissolve meth in boiling water? Why?
I never try that so I can't say or not that s the mistake.
You should try to put your product and acetone together in a recipient like beaker or a bow first (think to crush your meth as fine as possible so the process will be faster) and heat the meth/acetone solution just above the boiling point of acetone which should be at 55-56°C.
Then put your water ( distillated water should be use there because we are doing nothing else that a purification by recristallisation..)
But adding water is for example 7 - 8 ml first then stirr and wait the temperature to reach 53-55°C again so you can add dropwise water until nearly any of the cristal meth is dissoluted.
If you add more water than necessary, the product will be lost.
JimMoriSon27When i started i followed the recipe exactly, but i had a hard time dissolving the meth while it was mixed with aceton.

And when i had finally dissolved the meth it took me so long that alot of aceton had evaporated.

So i used the method i described and had succes one time, but keep failing after that so i will switch back to your advice.

Did you ever had a hard time to dissolve your meth ? And if alot of aceton evaporate what do you do ?
 

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When i started i followed the recipe exactly, but i had a hard time dissolving the meth while it was mixed with aceton.

And when i had finally dissolved the meth it took me so long that alot of aceton had evaporated.

So i used the method i described and had succes one time, but keep failing after that so i will switch back to your advice.

Did you ever had a hard time to dissolve your meth ? And if alot of aceton evaporate what do you do ?
Mysticsea3Hi, you don't understand what the thread creator means. 1. Put methamphetamine and acetone into a beaker and heat it to 55-56 degrees to make it boil. ( You don't have to wait for meth to melt in acetone) 2, add water (it must be distilled water or deionized water and do not use tap water) and add water must be added slowly (for example, you can use a dropper). During the addition of water, keep the liquid in the beaker at 53-55 degrees until all methamphetamine is dissolved in the beaker. ( You can choose heat filtration, but there will be loss. Then seal the liquid at room temperature for 4-6 hours and put it in the refrigerator for 12 hours. Filtering. Dry it.
 

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Hi, you don't understand what the thread creator means. 1. Put methamphetamine and acetone into a beaker and heat it to 55-56 degrees to make it boil. ( You don't have to wait for meth to melt in acetone) 2, add water (it must be distilled water or deionized water and do not use tap water) and add water must be added slowly (for example, you can use a dropper). During the addition of water, keep the liquid in the beaker at 53-55 degrees until all methamphetamine is dissolved in the beaker. ( You can choose heat filtration, but there will be loss. Then seal the liquid at room temperature for 4-6 hours and put it in the refrigerator for 12 hours. Filtering. Dry it.
hacke8What do you mean by sealing? Luke wrap foil and tape around the container with no hole like sealed sealed ?
 

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What do you mean by sealing? Luke wrap foil and tape around the container with no hole like sealed sealed ?
bordelloThere is no need to be so strict. Just wrap it with aluminum foil normally, mainly to prevent dust from entering and slow down the evaporation of the solution. The slower the evaporation, the larger the crystal. Rapid evaporation will only form crystalline powder.
 

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any tips for drying crystall without oven or desicator chamber ?
 

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any tips for drying crystall without oven or desicator chamber ?
darkskinVacuum filtration, put the RM into the beaker, add acetone or ether, (the solvent should be dry and cold) and pour it into the Br's funnel under stirring, and filter. After the filtration, cover the upper mouth of the funnel by hand. Seal it tightly and filter for 10-15 seconds. It will be almost very dry. If there is a smell, you can put it on A4 paper. Cover it with an A4 paper and put it in a dry and warm place for 2/3 hours and it will dry thoroughly.
 
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Vacuum filtration, put the RM into the beaker, add acetone or ether, (the solvent should be dry and cold) and pour it into the Br's funnel under stirring, and filter. After the filtration, cover the upper mouth of the funnel by hand. Seal it tightly and filter for 10-15 seconds. It will be almost very dry. If there is a smell, you can put it on A4 paper. Cover it with an A4 paper and put it in a dry and warm place for 2/3 hours and it will dry thoroughly.
hacke8thanks for your reply, will give it a try soon. And i had another question, does meth crystal hygroscopic ?
I put mine in filter paper in and open air for air drying, but after 2 days its doesnt even dry yet. still look wet and sticky
 

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thanks for your reply, will give it a try soon. And i had another question, does meth crystal hygroscopic ?
I put mine in filter paper in and open air for air drying, but after 2 days its doesnt even dry yet. still look wet and sticky
darkskinIt will absorb moisture, but without your situation, there are impurities in your situation. It should be put into a beaker, add cold and dry acetone, stir it quickly for a few seconds, and then filter it on the burt funnel. Acetone/ether/isopropyl alcohol are good detergents but must be dried)
 

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It will absorb moisture, but without your situation, there are impurities in your situation. It should be put into a beaker, add cold and dry acetone, stir it quickly for a few seconds, and then filter it on the burt funnel. Acetone/ether/isopropyl alcohol are good detergents but must be dried)
hacke8yes i also think there is some impurities in. I put the flashlight on and it looked like a little glossy rainbow on it. and after a some research , i think this is pvp from pill binder. Because i extact the pseudo from pill washed twice with acetone , and just react it without futher recrystallization.
any idea to get rid of it ? because i found it solubility is quiet same with meth
 

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yes i also think there is some impurities in. I put the flashlight on and it looked like a little glossy rainbow on it. and after a some research , i think this is pvp from pill binder. Because i extact the pseudo from pill washed twice with acetone , and just react it without futher recrystallization.
any idea to get rid of it ? because i found it solubility is quiet same with meth
 
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