How to order precursors safely ?

[chemden]

I read in a lot of sources that is not safe to order precursors at laboratory address or at home, but in few sources they mention that to not order on their names. So, my questions are:

1. It's acceptable safe to order on real name, if so, how to do it safe ?
2. What about P.O. boxes, package receiving services ?

If you have advice about this topic, write it here.

PS. Please move this thread to the appropriate section.

 

[WinterDust]

Hi Chemden,

I don't understand, from your post on July 30'th, you said you were opening a legit business chemichal company to start buying precursors and manufacture amphetamine.

Why would you need to help with this?

All chemichal transports within the EU are done with controlled transports and high regulations, if you are going "legit" then this is no issue.

In your situation, your problems are the audits.

Best Regards

 

[chemden]

Hi.

I already opened a chemical company.

I want to make sure that I don't raise any suspicions, so at least in the first 4 months, I don't want to use this company even to get precursor for precursor. And I want to pass at least 2 audits before using it for something illegal. I use this company to get lab equipment. For now, I get the precursors from vendors.

Best regards.

 

[WinterDust]

Hi,

Could you explain to me what is the "purpose" of this legit chemichal company first, is it sales? manufacturing? development? re-seller? as this is one of the questions that will be audited?

I am sorry, but there are just to many errors in your plan, that an audit and law enforcement will catch you immediately.

First of all, you may or may not know when you will be autied it can be scheduled but also at random, so you can and cannot be prepared for it.

Secondly, if this is the company you want to use as your "shell" company, then you want to start out with buying small quantities of precursors that "fits" the lab equipment you are buying.

Thirdly, you don't want to use your company for any illicit activity atleast in the first 2-4 years of operation, new companies are being audited by customs when importing / exporting anything between country lines.

Fourthly, reason for having a legit business for 2-4 years first is because of, first of all legitimacy when audited and revenue.

Fifth, you don't use your company to be the "main" illicit precursors user. What you should do is, open a shell company in another persons name, buy the precursors trough your main company and sell it to yourself using your shell company. In that way when you are being audited you won't be held responsible.

I can just keep going here, but I would hope you have already thought of these scenarios?

Best Regards,

If you are interested in sharing ideas we can keep this discussion in PM, I would be more than glad to help since I know these things quite well.

 

[chemden]

@eyelow I write you in private.

What I will learn from my experience, will post in Legitimate Businesses to support Amphetamine Production thread.

 

[Mrblue]

I'm thinking about order with a fake name and address and send to an anonymous locker if I buy from hobbyst vendors like Nitrochemis or konstatinos.
But if I want buy from shops that ask for "end user statement" like laboratoriumdiscounter I dont know if I can fill the "end user statement" with fake information.
Also I could fill my address as a chemical company and in the end if they send with DHL choose delivery in a different address.
I don't know how to do.

 

[KokosDreams]

I think for you it might be worth getting in touch with Organic Chemistry Poland

He has great quality products and very fair prices! Also, he has a lot of stuff available so you might be able to have him as your main vendor, there is no EUS required