Clarification of P2NP legal status
- Thread starter BevItUp
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There's an ex-user of this forum who runs and business manufacturing p2np for sale. A real legitimate limited liability company. Police have raided him twice trying to catch him out not having an EPP licence (not required) not only a misunderstanding of the law but a flimsy excuse for a raid too.
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Thanks for the information 41Dxflatine, (your quickly becoming my Obi-Wan), but I guess that plays directly into my concern about these "grey area" chemicals. I just want to get my precursors without anyone noticing or caring. You'll have to excuse me, I'm an engineer, so it's my nature to try to anticipate every problem and have ready made solutions. Unfortunately, back in school when I had to choose between 100 lvl Physics or 100 lvl Chemistry is seemed like Physics would serve me better. 
I should probably note that I'm in the U.S.
I think what I'm really trying to poke at, is if I were to order 500g in the mail would that raise an eyebrow?
I don't know what kind of store sells these chemicals, but my preferred method would be to walk into a local store and buy it for cash without having to show an ID.
Thanks for your help guys, and Heisenberg you're probably correct... I should just order from the suppliers on the site.
I should probably note that I'm in the U.S.
I think what I'm really trying to poke at, is if I were to order 500g in the mail would that raise an eyebrow?
I don't know what kind of store sells these chemicals, but my preferred method would be to walk into a local store and buy it for cash without having to show an ID.
Thanks for your help guys, and Heisenberg you're probably correct... I should just order from the suppliers on the site.
- By Melv99
Are you asking this question because of the place that recently started selling the product you inquired about? Not to mention at a great price considering the country they are located?
I reached out to this place and asked the same question. The owner responded and said it’s not controlled in the US so they can sell it. I swore it was or had to be near the top of the S1 lists. But searching everywhere including the DEA website, I could not find anything specific. The DEA watched and controlled list does not mention P-Nitropropene but hundreds of other chemicals. I frequently check out of curiosity and that product is still up for sale.
If that why your inquiring, then to answer your question. No, You won’t draw immediate attention. But who knows how diligent they are on record keeping.
Feel free to PM to see if we’re talking about the same thing.
Cheers,
Marv
I reached out to this place and asked the same question. The owner responded and said it’s not controlled in the US so they can sell it. I swore it was or had to be near the top of the S1 lists. But searching everywhere including the DEA website, I could not find anything specific. The DEA watched and controlled list does not mention P-Nitropropene but hundreds of other chemicals. I frequently check out of curiosity and that product is still up for sale.
If that why your inquiring, then to answer your question. No, You won’t draw immediate attention. But who knows how diligent they are on record keeping.
Feel free to PM to see if we’re talking about the same thing.
Cheers,
Marv
I did make the police give me back my truckful of chems and a decade ago at least they could not legally retain it despite me being transparent of what the precursor was.
In EU is P2NP legal but its expensive
- By WinterDust
No it's not, only certain countries.
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It is true. Its pretty expensive if you buy it ready-made. In my experience manufacturing it yourself ends up a lot cheaper.
- By WinterDust
What is true?
Regarding P2nP being legal i EU, that is not true, I have made a seperate post explaining in which countries and why it's not legal.
Only a few countries in Europe legalize P2nP.
The post was regarding it's legality not it's production cost.
Regarding P2nP being legal i EU, that is not true, I have made a seperate post explaining in which countries and why it's not legal.
Only a few countries in Europe legalize P2nP.
The post was regarding it's legality not it's production cost.
It is not too expensive, it can be purchased for 150-200 in europe easily and even better with good contacts
On Amazon
P2NP on Amazon as seen from USA
Something I was wondering about, but haven't looked into, many of these reagents are legal in some countries and illegal in others. So it seems feasible to signup for a mail forwarding service so you have an address in the country where the item is legal. Then, utilizing a VPN server in that country, buy it from seller's website for delivery to the mail forwarding service's address. Then the service sends it to you.
A couple problems jump out immediately like how it's packaged by the seller, (I won't work if they have a "Dangerous Chemicals" sticker on it), and how to get the customs forms filled out, (But I think you'd be able to just email them completed forms).
Having said all that, as @HEISENBERG points out, the easiest way is to buy it from a supplier on the forum
P2NP on Amazon as seen from USA
Something I was wondering about, but haven't looked into, many of these reagents are legal in some countries and illegal in others. So it seems feasible to signup for a mail forwarding service so you have an address in the country where the item is legal. Then, utilizing a VPN server in that country, buy it from seller's website for delivery to the mail forwarding service's address. Then the service sends it to you.
A couple problems jump out immediately like how it's packaged by the seller, (I won't work if they have a "Dangerous Chemicals" sticker on it), and how to get the customs forms filled out, (But I think you'd be able to just email them completed forms).
Having said all that, as @HEISENBERG points out, the easiest way is to buy it from a supplier on the forum
I am a supplier of p2np
We usually change the packaging of our products and disguise them as other insensitive products.
To deal with the customs, we will also replace with other products, customs declaration.
We usually change the packaging of our products and disguise them as other insensitive products.
To deal with the customs, we will also replace with other products, customs declaration.
The list of precursors in Europe is regulated by the International Narcotics Control Board.
Phenylnitropropene (P2NP) is not on their lists, but in their reports this substance is highlighted as a precursor of amphetamine.
There is another problem, p2np has no legal purposes of use, so it is difficult to justify it.
Direct purchase of this substance is not prohibited by law, but you can easily get into the field of view of law enforcement agencies.
In Europe, prices are quite low in the range of 200-300 euros per 1 kg, in my opinion it is very cheap.
In those countries where p2np is prohibited or in cases where you do not want get burned when buying of this substance or to reduce the cost, you can synthesize yourself.
The production of this substance is very simple, the synthesis is easily scaled, does not take much time and does not require expensive and complex equipment.
Phenylnitropropene (P2NP) is not on their lists, but in their reports this substance is highlighted as a precursor of amphetamine.
There is another problem, p2np has no legal purposes of use, so it is difficult to justify it.
Direct purchase of this substance is not prohibited by law, but you can easily get into the field of view of law enforcement agencies.
In Europe, prices are quite low in the range of 200-300 euros per 1 kg, in my opinion it is very cheap.
In those countries where p2np is prohibited or in cases where you do not want get burned when buying of this substance or to reduce the cost, you can synthesize yourself.
The production of this substance is very simple, the synthesis is easily scaled, does not take much time and does not require expensive and complex equipment.
- By Mo0odi
But it is difficult to obtain nitroethane to synthesis it
Nitroethane can be purchased from multiple sources here on Breaking Bad, including Constantylious777 or Brumer