Synthesis of 25B-NBOME from benzaldehydes with nitromethane

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Step 1. 2,5-Dimethoxynitrostyrene.
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1. 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde 1000 g was dissolved in 5 liters IPA at 80 *C.
2. Nitromethane 735 g, acetic acid 200 ml and ethylene diamine (cyclohexylamine, butylamine) 37 ml were added in the stated order and the reaction were kept at 80°C with stirring for 3 h.
3. The mixture was then kept in a fridge overnight causing crystallization.
4. The solids were filtered and washed with cold IPA yielding as a crystalline yellow solid (600 g, 60%).


Step 2. 2,5-Dimethoxyphenylethylamine.
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1. Sodium borohydride (480 g) was suspended in 5 liters of IPA.
2. 2,5-Dimethoxynitrostyrene (600 g) added in small portions when stirring.
3. Decomposition of the excess borohydride.
4. Extraction and distilled.
5. 500 g yellow oil (propane).
6. Add 5 liters of IPA.
7. Add 8 mmol Zn.
8. Add 3.5 mmol HOAc.
9. 240 g base yellow oil.

Step 3. Halogenation.

3.1. Bromination var.
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1. 2,5-Dimethoxyphenylethylamine base added in the flask.
2. HBr 48% 1.1mmol added in the flask and stirring.
3. H2O2 1.1 mmol dropwise in the flask and stirring.
4. After added all H2O2 stirring 1,5 hours at room temperature.
5. Extraction with EtOAc and added acetone.
6. Acidify HBr 48% or HCl conc. at pH 6.
7. Put in freezer at 12 hours.
8. Filtrate and dry 4-bromo-2,5-Dimethoxyphenylethylamine hbr (hcl).


Step 4. NBOMe.
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1. To a suspension of the 2C-X hydrochloride (or hydrobromide) (1.0 mmol) and 2‐methoxybenzaldehyde (1.1 mmol) in EtOH (10 mL) was added Et3N (1.0 mmol) and the reaction was stirred until formation of the imine was complete according to (30 mins to 3 hrs).
2. NaBH4 (2.0 mmol) was added to the reaction which was stirred for another 30 minutes.
3. The reaction mixture was evaporated under reduced pressure and redissolved in EtOAc/H2O (30 mL, 1:1).
4. The organic layer was isolated and the aqueous layer was extracted with EtOAc (2 × 15 mL).
5. The combined organic extracts were dried (Na2SO4), filtered and evaporated under reduced pressure.
6. The purified free base was dissolved in EtOH (2 mL) and there was added ethanolic HCl (1M, 2 mL) and the solution was diluted with Et2O until crystals formed.
7. The crystals were collected by filtration and dried under reduced pressure. Yield: 88%
 
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Why would one want to ruin 2cb? Nbome was a marketing tool IMO
 

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25I-NBOMe is a full agonist, it's arguably more powerful than 2c-b.

25B is not a full agonist as far as I'm aware..
 

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Will 1.1mmol of HCl or HI work for the halogenation with good yields?
 

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can't wait to check an alternative procedure for the first step that is more promising yield wise and with simpler reagents
 

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Did you check on it more and found better route?
 

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Hmmm... sure, even found a new one but i got an accident and need to extract and see if it reacts further. The core preparation is old and probably not taken account by many... I tried it and worked perfectly with a higher than 80% yield. I will give you the reference if you write me in private.
 

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Reduction works fine also with Al amalgam and Cu2+/NaBH4 and I got stuck at the halogenation for which I am truly feeling humiliated by chemistry because I have done much more difficult ones in the past.
 

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Thinking using a nitropropene in place of the nitrostyrene would be nice...
 

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Structure-activity relationship suggest bad interaction between the alpha methyl and the N-benzyl moieties.
 

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Guess i'm just talking to myself but seems it would be easier to reduce the nitrostyrene strait to the 2,5 MO-PEA with Zn & HCl...
 

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No, you cannot miss one step, having received an unsaturated substance or lose yield. Acetic acid with zinc in anhydrous conditions can work better. If only you do not take anhydrous HCl acid.
 

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Thank you will have to try using acidic acid in place of hydrochloride and see how it works...
 

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You arnt talking to yourself at all. This is very interesting article to me and one I’m gathering my supplies to try. I love the idea of having such a powerful psychedelic! I’d never be irresponsible with it and try to pass it of as acid - that’s what ruined these drugs in my opinion. It changed people’s outlook on the nbomes when people started dying because the press only want a salacious story!
I personally ALWAYS dosed them responsibly and found them to be good psychedelics! Also having 2cb in the first place would be lovely, let’s face it. I may have to buy 1/2kg of 2,5-dmo benzaldehyde. (Literally because I can’t find anyone I trust to sell me less than that!). There are so many diff things you can make with 2,5-dmo benzaldehyde though so even though there are more steps to the final product I’m after, than if I bought tryptamine, the fact is - there isn’t as much you can make with tryptamine that interests me as much as the phenethylamines - due to tollerence reasons, I prefer highly psychedelic phenethylamines, over tryptamines (in general - there are a few outliars tho).
Gotta love alibaba…
 

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Try reading it may interst you?
SYNTHESIS OF N-(HALOGENATED) BENZYL ANALOGS OF SUPERPOTENT SEROTONIN LIGANDS
J. Chil. Chem. Soc., 59, Nº 3 (2014)

In 2003, preliminary explorations led to the conclusion that N-2-
methoxybenzyl substitution, not only of phenylethylamines but also
phenylisopropylamines, tryptamines and 3-(2-aminoethyl)-(1H,3H)
quinazoline-2,4-diones related to the typical 5-HT2 receptor antagonist
ketanserin, results in particularly high affinities for 5-HT2A receptors.5

Everyone I know loves 25I over 25B and 25C it is a great psychedelic and easy on the mind...
 

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think I may have heard about this paper, I’ll have a look….

i know the chem is way over my head for the moment, in a practical sense.

I’m still trying to reduce the 3,4,5-TMONS I have made to the corresponding PEA. Iv managed it once in real bad yields via the NaBH4/CuCl2 method but not enough to use yet. I have a few different nitrostyrene’s/nitropropene’s building up in my sample collection at the mo, I figured id work with the one I have most of until I get it right!
 

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someone has sucess on this?
im searching really hard for this compound
 

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Not yet, but I’m collecting the relevant compounds. I’m going to just do a reduction of P2NP first to r-amphetamine.
Then, when I have a decent pump and a better non clogged Buchner. I want the pump for rxns as well though so I need it adjustable with a monitor and able to pull something like 600mmhg. I’m new to the whole vacuum thing so all the values are confusing.
I also don’t know if the cheaper pumps would be adjustable. I’m guessing not….
 

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Okay, so I am in a position to try this first step now….tried it in a very similar manner the other day but used ethanol instead of IPA and forgot to adjust the length of reflux for the lower temp…I also didn’t do acetic acid…didn’t realise I needed it to be honest…

Also, say I’m is on a small scale, do I adjust quantities of anything?
 

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HAHAHAH okkk !!!

i dont know, im not good in chemist things, but im imaginating new isomers like add to 3C-P an benzaldehyde ring and make it 1k stronger, it would be possible? making 35P-NBOME?

sorry if this is wrong here
 

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It’s cool I worked it out with the help of someone else on here.
There is something about weighing shit I have ALWAYS hated. Probably goes back to when I did sell drugs and wanted to take them and so never prepped them or something I dunno. Maybe my scales are just shit which is why but hey…it was darn successful.
I went wrong by adding too much solvent (way too much) as well as not purifying my NM enough…
 

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I say I worked it out…let me clarify. I’m still on the first Henry reaction of 2,5-DMOBA to 2,5-DMONS.
That then needs to be reduced to 2c-h, then to the relevant active 2c drug, then to the nbome.
I will almost certainly try and make mescaline first…way simpler and less steps.
I will reduce the nitrostyrene I have at some point after also turning the rest of the aldehyde into the same, then decided what I can get to turn it into what I want most…
 

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Nice its seems like you gonna make it
best of wishes for you!
 
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