Question Looking for a vendor Help me with my first steps!

[1019er]

I'm a noob and want to get into synthesis and production .

After spending here some time reading, my first 3 big question turned up.

1. How to find a supply who ships small scale of different chemicals to Austria?

2. What are the best (easiest) substances to start with, after extracting dmt.
It seems beside the chemicals 4mmc is a good start. Or am I wrong?

3. Can you give me some tips on what supplies I will need to setup a small scale lab to produce?
Of course some magnetic stirrer with heating plate, fume hut, different flasks etc.

Thx in advance!

 

[antrax]

bk-MDMA

 

[dr.zee]

 

[The Alchemist]

This is Methylone? What's your process?

 

[dr.zee]

4mmc

 

[dr.zee]

szybko

 

[The Alchemist]

1) search domestically for all simpliest chemicals, try to order within country. Search for solvents in hardware and specialty stores, search in search engines for a book by Strike about creative ideas of certain items, find a buyer on bbgate and have them ship to unrelated address or PO box, go on darknetmarkets tor, order international on alibaba or similar chinese marketplaces

2) methcathinones all have interchangeable proccess you can make methylone, mephedrone, mdpv and apvp in very similar ways also nep
Amphetamine, methamphetamine and mdma can all use a similar but different way
Read all the basic info posts until you understand

3) Here's a list of miscellaneous items you might consider after basic glassware like a distillation kit, sep funnel, etc:

Test tubs, beakers, spatulas, pipettes, wash bottles
Buckets, pipes, ducting, fans
Water pump, vaccuum pump, filters (paper, carbon)
Tubing, stands, clamps, ph strips, forceps, motor and pedestal
Gloves, mask, full body suit, drop sheets

 

[dr.zee]

much drugs when u made u dont need lab equipment only gas mask and i can made it out side

 

[The Alchemist]

That's true too. Maybe OP doesn't have good a spot right now (me also). I'm reading the thread called 4mmc shake and bake and he uses only jars and plastic jugs and some bags. Looks good to me just gotta find a nice spot in the forests.

Im trying to visual the whole process outside. Lots of good pictures of attempts in that thread.

Shake and bake method for 4mmc

Has anyone tryied shake and bake method for production of 4mmc with DCM? Which are the risks involved?

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[dr.zee]

is my profil hahha but i lost password

 

[The Alchemist]

You make it outside to put it in the freezer after? Or can you use cooler of ice instead?

 

[1019er]

Thx for your reply!

So you think the best way to get all the base substances is to produce or buy them on my own one by one?
Which seems pretty time and money consuming and will take a long time, just by reading threw the forum how to produce the basic ingredients for mephedron.

So isn't there anyone who can provide me with a small quantity of the basic substance to produce 4mmc?

If I could get hands on ephedrin, crystal would be even easier to produce.

So maybe there is someone ot there who wants to build something together and share costs and information, pls get in contact with me!

 

[dr.zee]

is u made your self and u made 4mmc
meth is 300€/kg

 

[BennyBlanco]

So you are saying all a man need to make a KG of meth is 300€?

 

[HerrHaber]

Surprisingly enough the production cost can even go lower but only if you are chemical industry.

 

[The Alchemist]

You can look here:

Sellers of Chemicals and Equipment

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You just need
2-bromo-4-methylpropiophenone
(CAS 1451-82-7) and Methylamine 40% aq solution everything should be simple to get or replace.

This is a list I have:
2B4M - 100 g
DCM - 300 ml
Methylamine 40% aq solution - 200 ml
Hydrochloric acid - 50 ml
Dry acetone - 200 ml

 

[1019er]

Thx unfortunately nobody wants to sell me this small amount and I don't have 3000-5000 € to invest.

 

[dr.zee]

minimum order what they sell chemicals is 1l/1kg

 

[The Alchemist]

1kg 2-bromo-4-methylpropiophenone
(CAS 1451-82-7) less than $200, someone offered me it for $140

 

[1019er]

Anobody who can offer me a small amount of all the ingredients for around 200€ shipped to Austria would be great!

 

[HerrHaber]

The Alchemist has just offered the basic amounts you need to get started and I have no reason to believe he is ripping you off... I will try to get you some glassware I have spare as some friend of mine will travel back to Vienna soon.

 

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